create a table prior to bcping data

I need to do the following;
1. bcp out data from our reporting server
2. Move bcp file to our archival server
Sounds pretty straight forward.. but of course there is
more...
Since we are using this data for archival purposes, we
just want to store the bcp file. My concern is that there
are many schema changes to the source table and I wanted
to make sure that I had the correct schema needed to bcp
that file back into a table, say three years from now.
Is there a option in bcp or bulk copy that would create
the schema for you? Or can this be done via DTS?
Thanks in advance
Susan
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Susan
Hi,
You can "Generate a script " of all objects and keep it along with the BCP
OUT data.
How to Generate scripts:
1. In Enterprise manager
2. Connect to the SQL server
3. Select the database you need to generate the script
4. Right click All Tasks - "Select the Generate SQL Script" option
5. Click Show all
6. Go to Options Tab - in the Table options select Script INdexes, Triggers
and Primary keys.../
Click the save button and save the file to your hard disk in safe place.
Once you require create a ne database and Execute this script
and BCP IN the the data back.
Thanks
Hari
MCDBA
"Susan" <anonymous@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:1a40701c41db3$13400250$a501280a@.phx.gbl...
> I need to do the following;
> 1. bcp out data from our reporting server
> 2. Move bcp file to our archival server
> Sounds pretty straight forward.. but of course there is
> more...
> Since we are using this data for archival purposes, we
> just want to store the bcp file. My concern is that there
> are many schema changes to the source table and I wanted
> to make sure that I had the correct schema needed to bcp
> that file back into a table, say three years from now.
> Is there a option in bcp or bulk copy that would create
> the schema for you? Or can this be done via DTS?
> Thanks in advance
> Susan
>
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> Thanks
> Susan
>

create a table prior to bcping data

I need to do the following;
1. bcp out data from our reporting server
2. Move bcp file to our archival server
Sounds pretty straight forward.. but of course there is
more...
Since we are using this data for archival purposes, we
just want to store the bcp file. My concern is that there
are many schema changes to the source table and I wanted
to make sure that I had the correct schema needed to bcp
that file back into a table, say three years from now.
Is there a option in bcp or bulk copy that would create
the schema for you? Or can this be done via DTS?
Thanks in advance
Susan
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
SusanHi,
You can "Generate a script " of all objects and keep it along with the BCP
OUT data.
How to Generate scripts:
1. In Enterprise manager
2. Connect to the SQL server
3. Select the database you need to generate the script
4. Right click All Tasks - "Select the Generate SQL Script" option
5. Click Show all
6. Go to Options Tab - in the Table options select Script INdexes, Triggers
and Primary keys.../
Click the save button and save the file to your hard disk in safe place.
Once you require create a ne database and Execute this script
and BCP IN the the data back.
Thanks
Hari
MCDBA
"Susan" <anonymous@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:1a40701c41db3$13400250$a501280a@.phx.gbl...
> I need to do the following;
> 1. bcp out data from our reporting server
> 2. Move bcp file to our archival server
> Sounds pretty straight forward.. but of course there is
> more...
> Since we are using this data for archival purposes, we
> just want to store the bcp file. My concern is that there
> are many schema changes to the source table and I wanted
> to make sure that I had the correct schema needed to bcp
> that file back into a table, say three years from now.
> Is there a option in bcp or bulk copy that would create
> the schema for you? Or can this be done via DTS?
> Thanks in advance
> Susan
>
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> Thanks
> Susan
>|||I've found a solution to my issue and wanted to let you
all know!!
I had also posted my question on the SQL Server Central
site and Mr. Mortensen was nice enough to provide a GENIUS
solution. He has a proc that will
1. Generate schema of the table in question
2. Update stats on table prior to BCPing
3. BCP's out the data into a readable text file
4. Verify row counts from the BCP and the actual table
(VERY NICE)
5. He also has a bat file that will run the schema and bcp
the data into the DB/table of your choice.
It was EXACTLY what I need and I want to thank him for his
help.
BTW - Why did Microsoft get rid of the backup 'table'
option? I used it quite a bit in 6.5 and there are MANY
time you only need to save one table and not the whole
database. I know there is dts and bcp, but nothing
compares to backing up and restoring a table. Other DBMS
provide this.. Just wondering.
Thanks
Susan
Here's the link in case your curious.
http://www.sqlservercentral.com/forums/shwmessage.aspx?
forumid=8&messageid=111276
>--Original Message--
>I need to do the following;
>1. bcp out data from our reporting server
>2. Move bcp file to our archival server
>Sounds pretty straight forward.. but of course there is
>more...
>Since we are using this data for archival purposes, we
>just want to store the bcp file. My concern is that there
>are many schema changes to the source table and I wanted
>to make sure that I had the correct schema needed to bcp
>that file back into a table, say three years from now.
>Is there a option in bcp or bulk copy that would create
>the schema for you? Or can this be done via DTS?
>Thanks in advance
>Susan
>
>
>Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>Thanks
>Susan
>.
>

create a table prior to bcping data

I need to do the following;
1. bcp out data from our reporting server
2. Move bcp file to our archival server
Sounds pretty straight forward.. but of course there is
more...
Since we are using this data for archival purposes, we
just want to store the bcp file. My concern is that there
are many schema changes to the source table and I wanted
to make sure that I had the correct schema needed to bcp
that file back into a table, say three years from now.
Is there a option in bcp or bulk copy that would create
the schema for you? Or can this be done via DTS?
Thanks in advance
Susan
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
SusanHi,
You can "Generate a script " of all objects and keep it along with the BCP
OUT data.
How to Generate scripts:
1. In Enterprise manager
2. Connect to the SQL server
3. Select the database you need to generate the script
4. Right click All Tasks - "Select the Generate SQL Script" option
5. Click Show all
6. Go to Options Tab - in the Table options select Script INdexes, Triggers
and Primary keys.../
Click the save button and save the file to your hard disk in safe place.
Once you require create a ne database and Execute this script
and BCP IN the the data back.
Thanks
Hari
MCDBA
"Susan" <anonymous@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:1a40701c41db3$13400250$a501280a@.phx
.gbl...
> I need to do the following;
> 1. bcp out data from our reporting server
> 2. Move bcp file to our archival server
> Sounds pretty straight forward.. but of course there is
> more...
> Since we are using this data for archival purposes, we
> just want to store the bcp file. My concern is that there
> are many schema changes to the source table and I wanted
> to make sure that I had the correct schema needed to bcp
> that file back into a table, say three years from now.
> Is there a option in bcp or bulk copy that would create
> the schema for you? Or can this be done via DTS?
> Thanks in advance
> Susan
>
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> Thanks
> Susan
>

Crash with "Failed Assertion"

Hello,
I have a table with 2 indexes.
My C++ program deletes some data from this table and then
does bcp data in. It does it twice in one run.
After I run my program for the first time I get the
correct result. When I run it again, the first bcp is
successful, however there is no data from the second bcp.
If I repeat it again, the result is correct; one more
time - the data from the first bcp only.
If I try to debug it, everything works fine.
If I run it without break points in the program, I
duplicate a problem.
SQL Server log records an error:
Failed Assertion = '(logMode != nonlogged) || (dbt-
>dbt_dbid == TEMPDBID)'
and creates a SQLdump file, which I don't know how to
interprit.
If I remove indexes from the table, everything works fine.
Does anyone understand what's going on?
I would appriciate any help.
Thanks.Are your indexes unique indexes? Chances are thats why it's failing the
second time, if you're using the same data in you're BCP load.
-Morgan
"Tanya Bardakh" <tbardakh@.dysanalytics.com> wrote in message
news:0cf001c39d5d$a3068a20$a401280a@.phx.gbl...
> Hello,
>
> I have a table with 2 indexes.
> My C++ program deletes some data from this table and then
> does bcp data in. It does it twice in one run.
> After I run my program for the first time I get the
> correct result. When I run it again, the first bcp is
> successful, however there is no data from the second bcp.
> If I repeat it again, the result is correct; one more
> time - the data from the first bcp only.
> If I try to debug it, everything works fine.
> If I run it without break points in the program, I
> duplicate a problem.
> SQL Server log records an error:
> Failed Assertion = '(logMode != nonlogged) || (dbt-
> >dbt_dbid == TEMPDBID)'
> and creates a SQLdump file, which I don't know how to
> interprit.
> If I remove indexes from the table, everything works fine.
> Does anyone understand what's going on?
> I would appriciate any help.
> Thanks.
>
>|||Thank you for the reply.
My indexes are not unique, nor cluster.
Tanya.
>--Original Message--
>Are your indexes unique indexes? Chances are thats why
it's failing the
>second time, if you're using the same data in you're BCP
load.
>-Morgan
>"Tanya Bardakh" <tbardakh@.dysanalytics.com> wrote in
message
>news:0cf001c39d5d$a3068a20$a401280a@.phx.gbl...
>> Hello,
>>
>> I have a table with 2 indexes.
>> My C++ program deletes some data from this table and
then
>> does bcp data in. It does it twice in one run.
>> After I run my program for the first time I get the
>> correct result. When I run it again, the first bcp is
>> successful, however there is no data from the second
bcp.
>> If I repeat it again, the result is correct; one more
>> time - the data from the first bcp only.
>> If I try to debug it, everything works fine.
>> If I run it without break points in the program, I
>> duplicate a problem.
>> SQL Server log records an error:
>> Failed Assertion = '(logMode != nonlogged) || (dbt-
>> >dbt_dbid == TEMPDBID)'
>> and creates a SQLdump file, which I don't know how to
>> interprit.
>> If I remove indexes from the table, everything works
fine.
>> Does anyone understand what's going on?
>> I would appriciate any help.
>> Thanks.
>>
>
>.
>|||Any replication on the tables involved?
How about triggers?
If the answer to the above is "no", the only thing I can think of is that
you're running out of space in the logfile and you have configured for
"Simple" recovery model. It would work in "debug" because SQLServer would
have time to remove the previous checkpoint...
Bruce
"Tanya Bardakh" <anonymous@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:0de201c39d64$5d354b10$a401280a@.phx.gbl...
> Thank you for the reply.
> My indexes are not unique, nor cluster.
> Tanya.
>
> >--Original Message--
> >Are your indexes unique indexes? Chances are thats why
> it's failing the
> >second time, if you're using the same data in you're BCP
> load.
> >
> >-Morgan
> >
> >"Tanya Bardakh" <tbardakh@.dysanalytics.com> wrote in
> message
> >news:0cf001c39d5d$a3068a20$a401280a@.phx.gbl...
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >>
> >> I have a table with 2 indexes.
> >> My C++ program deletes some data from this table and
> then
> >> does bcp data in. It does it twice in one run.
> >>
> >> After I run my program for the first time I get the
> >> correct result. When I run it again, the first bcp is
> >> successful, however there is no data from the second
> bcp.
> >> If I repeat it again, the result is correct; one more
> >> time - the data from the first bcp only.
> >>
> >> If I try to debug it, everything works fine.
> >>
> >> If I run it without break points in the program, I
> >> duplicate a problem.
> >>
> >> SQL Server log records an error:
> >> Failed Assertion = '(logMode != nonlogged) || (dbt-
> >> >dbt_dbid == TEMPDBID)'
> >> and creates a SQLdump file, which I don't know how to
> >> interprit.
> >>
> >> If I remove indexes from the table, everything works
> fine.
> >>
> >> Does anyone understand what's going on?
> >>
> >> I would appriciate any help.
> >> Thanks.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >.
> >|||Thank you, Bruce
I don't have any triggers & replications.
Space should not be an issue, since I have plenty of it
(30 GB). Actually I am reloading same data (about 200
rows) over and over again. The only thing is it's
successful the first time and crashes SQL server on the
subsequent run.
>--Original Message--
>Any replication on the tables involved?
>How about triggers?
>If the answer to the above is "no", the only thing I can
think of is that
>you're running out of space in the logfile and you have
configured for
>"Simple" recovery model. It would work in "debug"
because SQLServer would
>have time to remove the previous checkpoint...
>Bruce
>"Tanya Bardakh" <anonymous@.discussions.microsoft.com>
wrote in message
>news:0de201c39d64$5d354b10$a401280a@.phx.gbl...
>> Thank you for the reply.
>> My indexes are not unique, nor cluster.
>> Tanya.
>>
>> >--Original Message--
>> >Are your indexes unique indexes? Chances are thats why
>> it's failing the
>> >second time, if you're using the same data in you're
BCP
>> load.
>> >
>> >-Morgan
>> >
>> >"Tanya Bardakh" <tbardakh@.dysanalytics.com> wrote in
>> message
>> >news:0cf001c39d5d$a3068a20$a401280a@.phx.gbl...
>> >> Hello,
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I have a table with 2 indexes.
>> >> My C++ program deletes some data from this table and
>> then
>> >> does bcp data in. It does it twice in one run.
>> >>
>> >> After I run my program for the first time I get the
>> >> correct result. When I run it again, the first bcp is
>> >> successful, however there is no data from the second
>> bcp.
>> >> If I repeat it again, the result is correct; one more
>> >> time - the data from the first bcp only.
>> >>
>> >> If I try to debug it, everything works fine.
>> >>
>> >> If I run it without break points in the program, I
>> >> duplicate a problem.
>> >>
>> >> SQL Server log records an error:
>> >> Failed Assertion = '(logMode != nonlogged) || (dbt-
>> >> >dbt_dbid == TEMPDBID)'
>> >> and creates a SQLdump file, which I don't know how to
>> >> interprit.
>> >>
>> >> If I remove indexes from the table, everything works
>> fine.
>> >>
>> >> Does anyone understand what's going on?
>> >>
>> >> I would appriciate any help.
>> >> Thanks.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >.
>> >
>
>.
>|||You should contact Product Support (http://support.microsoft.com) who will
be able to help you figure this out.
Regards,
Paul.
--
Paul Randal
DBCC Technical Lead, Microsoft SQL Server Storage Engine
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
"bcarson@.asgoth.com" <anonymous@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:027e01c39d82$9d9c2070$a301280a@.phx.gbl...
> Thank you, Bruce
> I don't have any triggers & replications.
> Space should not be an issue, since I have plenty of it
> (30 GB). Actually I am reloading same data (about 200
> rows) over and over again. The only thing is it's
> successful the first time and crashes SQL server on the
> subsequent run.
>
> >--Original Message--
> >Any replication on the tables involved?
> >How about triggers?
> >
> >If the answer to the above is "no", the only thing I can
> think of is that
> >you're running out of space in the logfile and you have
> configured for
> >"Simple" recovery model. It would work in "debug"
> because SQLServer would
> >have time to remove the previous checkpoint...
> >
> >Bruce
> >
> >"Tanya Bardakh" <anonymous@.discussions.microsoft.com>
> wrote in message
> >news:0de201c39d64$5d354b10$a401280a@.phx.gbl...
> >> Thank you for the reply.
> >>
> >> My indexes are not unique, nor cluster.
> >>
> >> Tanya.
> >>
> >>
> >> >--Original Message--
> >> >Are your indexes unique indexes? Chances are thats why
> >> it's failing the
> >> >second time, if you're using the same data in you're
> BCP
> >> load.
> >> >
> >> >-Morgan
> >> >
> >> >"Tanya Bardakh" <tbardakh@.dysanalytics.com> wrote in
> >> message
> >> >news:0cf001c39d5d$a3068a20$a401280a@.phx.gbl...
> >> >> Hello,
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> I have a table with 2 indexes.
> >> >> My C++ program deletes some data from this table and
> >> then
> >> >> does bcp data in. It does it twice in one run.
> >> >>
> >> >> After I run my program for the first time I get the
> >> >> correct result. When I run it again, the first bcp is
> >> >> successful, however there is no data from the second
> >> bcp.
> >> >> If I repeat it again, the result is correct; one more
> >> >> time - the data from the first bcp only.
> >> >>
> >> >> If I try to debug it, everything works fine.
> >> >>
> >> >> If I run it without break points in the program, I
> >> >> duplicate a problem.
> >> >>
> >> >> SQL Server log records an error:
> >> >> Failed Assertion = '(logMode != nonlogged) || (dbt-
> >> >> >dbt_dbid == TEMPDBID)'
> >> >> and creates a SQLdump file, which I don't know how to
> >> >> interprit.
> >> >>
> >> >> If I remove indexes from the table, everything works
> >> fine.
> >> >>
> >> >> Does anyone understand what's going on?
> >> >>
> >> >> I would appriciate any help.
> >> >> Thanks.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >.
> >> >
> >
> >
> >.
> >